June 20 Megabattle

[snickerdoodle]

In the 40 century there is no fluff....only war!!!

Being that I am not nearly as good in the fluff dept. as Steve, there is none for this battle.

The way i figure is that we are joining the battle while it is happening.

Bring 2000 pts. ( I personally not offended by limited proxys, I would like the game to be completly about having a good time.

We will be using 3 tables, deployment we be randomized with placement being done as per drop pod rules. This is so that noone loses anything because of an evil scatter die.

I am toying with the idea that each player may get to elimanate one of the tables from where they can potentialy land. Additionaly a player may get to reroll one deployment roll.

Innitiative will be randomly determined each round.

A round consists of each General doing somthing with one of his units. This can be anything you could do in a 'normal' turn with that unit.

Once a unit performs an action they will be marked, once any unit is marked twice, they may not perfom any actions untill all of a generals other units have performed actions. This does not include fighting back in hand to hand, going to ground, or reacting to tank shock etc.....

Each time a general earns a kill point they get a playing card... at the end of the battle whoever has the best poker hand wins. Kill more increase yourf odds.

In keeping with the random theme there will also be random events. Remeber the Idea is to have a good time.

If we can get a count of who wants to be involved that would be great.

[hardihar]

If all your units are marked twice for actions, will you be able to then move one before all the other generals have marked all their units twice?

[snickerdoodle]

It depends how many units you field. Once all your units have done somthing you may remove a token from them.

I would like to do it this way, to prevent someone from making one uber unit and tearing up the field with them.

[hardihar]

I wouldnt want to see an army with 4 high point units, getting to use them over and over again while an army with a larger number of units will potentially end up getting hosed as he doesnt get to move his entire army before the the other player is moving his units again.

right now if i was into min/maxing for this i would go for the fewest number of ubber powerful units i could fit into a list so that i would be moving them more often than the guy who brought a bunch of regular troops.

[snickerdoodle]

That wasn't my intention, but it could definetly be abused, I was hoping people would use combinations and units they normally wouldn't.

I am up for suggestions on how to make it more fair.

Maybe the people with the uber units don't get to go again until everyone has finished all their moves.

[hardihar]

lol some where a balance, you are rewarding killpoints with a card essentially. so large number of units can be a reward to your opponents.

mostly i would just have everyone mark thier units as used, once everyone has used all their units the turn ends and you start the next turn( rally fleeing units all at once and the like since your using a interactive move sequence). \

Some armies will have natural advantages from unit mix, but changing things up should bring about a good amount of chaos.

[geoff]

I will totally be down for this, sounds like it could be some serious fun if people don't just try to win.

[deewalla]

If killpoints is becoming the driving force behind bringing only 2 super uber units, then why not change it to something along the lines of old victory points. Like... every 50 or 100 or 200 points of kill you get a card. It doesn't solve all problems, but it does show the difference between wipeing out a 80 point troop choice and only taking out 2 of a 10 man fullykitted cybork nob squad...

[geoff]

wouldn't guard get off easy that way? not sure point wise but isn't guard stuff cheap cause you needs tons of it?

[snickerdoodle]

I was thinking more on the lines of each general having 4 detachments for placment and turns. If someone has lots of little units it gives them some tactical flexibilty that someone with four units will not have. perhaps there could be some objectives that help aquire cards as well.

Steve, if you can bring the random modifier cards that we use in flames of war that would be appreciated.

[hardihar]

That would work if you just had each player divide up his army into 4 detachments of as close as possible point total. so you will get 4 "impulses" per turn mixed in with everyone elses.

[deewalla]

geoff, sure, some units are cheap. Just like grots are cheap. They have a low cost because their individual power, stat line, survivalbility, and movement are low. In 40k, points is the ultimate "equalizer". A 1500 point army, should be roughly equal in power to any other 1500 point army. Some armys have better choices, or combo's, making them tier 1 armys, but in general the entire Games Workshop line of games are all based off their notion of 1 point equals 1 point.
A guard army gets cheep men because compared to the rest of the 40k universe a guardsmen is weak. If a guardsmen had the armor of a marine, the stat line of a marine, and the special rules of a marine his point cost would be that of a marine. So, to use my earlier example, if a fully fitted 10-ork nob squad costs 450 points, then I should take 450 points of guardsmen to equal its power. While both races have their prefered method of attack, (orks - WAAAAGHHH!! guard- SHOOOOOOT IT!!!!!!) after say 3 turns they both should do equal damage.