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Post by fuzzums on Apr 25, 2012 1:35:50 GMT -5
OK. So Dan and I thought we needed to do a Battle report for this one, but we were having too much fun to remember to keep track of what happened. We did agree that we needed to get the general idea out, because it was quite epic.
So I am running Sisters of Battle
Uriah on foot (like a boss) 3 squads of Seraphims deepstriking - 10 seras w/ 2 dual flamers and Celestine 10 Seras w/ 2 dual flamers 10 seras w/ 2 dual inferno pistols 3 squads of Battle Sisters - all have Heavy Flamer, Melta, Combi-melta 3 Exorcist
Dan is running Necrons 1 HQ ( I can't remember, dan please fill this in.) in a vehicle 4 squads of 19 warriors 2 squads of 18? flayed ones and lords w/ rez orb.
I am going to try to make a TL:DR version of this because i don't remember the exact way things went down.
Craziness from my army. Celestine drops on turn 4 of 7 and wipes out full squads of 12+ warriors each turn and does't die. I flame his army like mad! (For da Emprah!) and drop one of his lords 7+ times (we lost track.)
Craziness for Dan? His lord got back up 7+ times!! I thought it was 12 times, Dan says 7. He got back up sooo many times, I just couldn't believe it. I droped 12 warriors in one turn, he got 11 will be backs. And overall his will be backs were very impressive. I've been telling Dan to warrior spam now for a while, and I think he might consider doing it again. Instead of flayed ones he would run wraiths though, screw both wraiths (these things are OP) and flayed ones.
Dan did I miss anything?
P.S. I had dan almost tabled on turn 5 I believe. We kept getting the rolls for more turns, and on turn 7 he finally went down!
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Post by discordian on Apr 25, 2012 8:34:16 GMT -5
Bring a pad of paper for notes next time. Maybe we all can start making up battle reports of fun games. Games like where a bunch of crazy chainsaw wielding chics chop a plane out of the sky.
P.S.
I really don’t like Celestine. She's just to auto include for my tastes.
I’m not a big fan of flayed ones. I don’t see why they weren’t made troops, and I don’t see why you would take them over scarabs and wraiths.
I don’t get adele, does she really think she can light rain on fire?
Grumble grumble grumble……
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Post by fuzzums on Apr 25, 2012 11:57:27 GMT -5
Well the thing about Dan and I is we like to run really really really "bad" lists when we play fun games to see how the units will run. I know for a fact Dan would never ever ever run flayed ones in most of his games, even fun ones.
I was running celestine just to try her out. I wasn't impressed with her too much. She IS worth her points because she can kill/ distract well. But i don't think she is all that efficient. Dan did say; however, that Hit and Run is based off the highest initiative, is this true? Because if thats the case, then you should never ever run a seraphim sqaud without Celestine. i would pay 200 points just for the ability to make Hit and run work more then 40% of the time or whatever the final math comes out to be.
We were gonna start making battle reports because a lot of people don't like certain units and we think they are incredible. For instance, the crazy girls with chainsaws that killed the plane. Yes they have rage, but they are (in my opinion) the absolute best melee squad I have seen or heard of in the game. Yes Uriah and Death Cult are great, but I like my chainsaw girls. (From the attempt of trying not to be biast, they are both equally good. Repentia = anything above MEQ and DCA for anything MEQ and under.
The general thing is that Dan once again proved Flayed ones are terrible. I learned that dropping 30 "angels" from the sky could be a viable tactic. The problem is I peicemealed them in and sisters can not manipulate their reserve rolls. I also messed around with Dominions and can see why they are an auto include. I just don't think they are as important as other units. They provide the threat and fodder that my army needs for the first 2 turns.
(who is adele? I have to get back to work so will continue this later. Good to hear from your Discord. I appreciate hearing your advice, you rule savvy bastard ;3 )
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Post by discordian on Apr 25, 2012 13:57:22 GMT -5
Its 115 points for a deepstriking, always wounds on a 4+, 2+/4++, cant be tied down whack a mole game. As a comparison the only other model that has her rules for returning to play is Thawn, who is also 115 points whose stat line is pretty terrible for a solo character, only 5++, doesn't have a heavy flamer, cant fly, and when he comes back he can't attach to other units. He can score but if you can its better to kill units than contest in 40K. She is worth more then her points. GRUMBLE! And its 50% to hit & run The only characteristic tests that let you use the highest models stat is leadership, which has its own special set of rules. Other characteristic tests are based on the models stat, or in the case of single roll for a unit the majority. So you could only use the Saints absurd stat line if you have one seraphim left. Yeah they really don't have speed up reserve mechanics like other armies, but whatever. Sometimes it’s better coming later. P.S. lesson to any radio station long enough and you'll hear this raspy women singing about a fire, rain, and/or about some rumor has it.
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Post by fuzzums on Apr 25, 2012 15:47:46 GMT -5
oh, I thought you were talking about that Adele, it caught me off gaurd though.
Thanks for clarifying the hit and run stuff. I still need to pass leadership to hit and run so it's not 50% if you factor in the chance to fail. (That makes me not love the seraphims as much anymore XP )
She might be worth the 115 points, but thats what she is, a solo character. A one man army isn't worth it in my opinion most of the time. I thinks it's safe to agree that she is a beast, I just don't think she is ALWAYS an auto include. maybe in 1850-2k you might as well put her in with a bomb.
OH! if I rememeber to write things down I have a 2.5k game going on against nids today. I'll make sure to let ya know how that goes if you'd like. Most likely it won't be as epic as we want it to be though. haha
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Post by discordian on Apr 25, 2012 17:29:23 GMT -5
You don’t necessarily have to make leadership test to do hit & run. You do have to make leadership test if you lost combat before you can attempt to hit and run.
I don’t know how pessimistic you are about close combat, but you can theoretically win combat and not have to do a leadership test before you hint & run.
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Post by fuzzums on Apr 25, 2012 21:31:13 GMT -5
OH! Then I was getting confused by the way Dan worded it. Either way, the 50/50 isn't consistent enough for me to want to use. I am very pessimistic about CC, unless we are talking about Repentia or Death Cult. I did find out today that my Deathcult on the charge will kill Dan's wraiths. in reverse however, I get stomped. Dan's Wraiths are kind of OP But against most units I am not afraid to send up Repentia against anything. Swarmlords and wraiths do it for me though, I am usualy too scared to do it.
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Post by Sterling Archer on Apr 26, 2012 19:57:30 GMT -5
A one man army isn't worth it in my opinion most of the time. Mephiston.
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Post by discordian on Apr 26, 2012 20:32:28 GMT -5
Kharn!
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Post by fuzzums on Apr 26, 2012 22:13:21 GMT -5
AP1? But i feel like we are getting slightly off topic. So I played that 2k game against Nids. My opponent cheaty-faced and his list was 2600 or so (cause he forgot to remove a squad before the game.) But it almost wasn't a fight >.< I was running 6 troops with HF, Melta, Combi-melta (my new favorite way to kit out my troops) and that alone woulda cleared out most of what he sent my way. Two dominion squads and sera's hit nicely as well. I found out the hard way that T-fexes have a 2+ flamer :/ so my DCA didn't last long when he poped my tank. Dan, Evan, and I are gonna hit up triple play tomorrow (If i can get out of work) for some games if people would like to join us. At the moment we are going to 2v1 Dan at the moment. If he could get a partner, some practice for the doubles tourny would be nice for all of us. I'd like to see what sisters do to other armies. As it is I have played Nids and Crons like mad. Termies don't scare me cause of my incredible amount of S8 AP1. It would be nice to see some of the other armies.
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Post by discordian on Apr 27, 2012 8:55:25 GMT -5
Wait will there be tables today to play on?
Also a 600ish point unit? Did somebody miss the fact they had a couple of more carifice running around?
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Post by fuzzums on Apr 27, 2012 13:20:22 GMT -5
Their pre-release starts Tomorrow and Sunday. ~points to events and a few threads.~ There will be no tables 28/29 Which today is neither. (Though it sounds like I will be pulled into work either way )
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Post by discordian on Apr 27, 2012 13:52:03 GMT -5
For some reason Ive been stuck in a day behind mood. I thought Friday was the 28... which is awesome because that means today is FRIDAY!
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