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Post by doctorclockwork on Jun 13, 2011 11:41:39 GMT -5
I can't link itbecause im on my phone but its up on gw. For once they answered all the major issues! And its got some bad news for Brad and his henchmen...
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Post by droofus on Jun 13, 2011 12:23:01 GMT -5
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Post by khornedog on Jun 13, 2011 14:19:48 GMT -5
I disagree that Oblits are daemons but not much I can do about it.
I need to look when I get home to see if Lash is actually a psychic shooting attack or acts as one. If so I will have to roll to hit from now on which adds a variable into the equation.
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Post by doctorclockwork on Jun 13, 2011 14:35:57 GMT -5
What makes Oblits not daemons? They are huge dudes that are mostly daemonic.
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Post by khornedog on Jun 13, 2011 14:54:14 GMT -5
They are corrupted from a daemonic "computer" virus from my understanding. They did not originate from the warp. I will have to reread my chaos book entry to further articulate.
Part of my reaction is just a gut feeling because of the army I run and spent a small fortune on. I guess playwise if they are in combat with grey knights they are dead regardless of preferred enemy so I shouldn't worry too much.
It is just interesting the units they chose as daemonic imo.
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Post by droofus on Jun 13, 2011 14:58:21 GMT -5
I wonder if they considered adding Mephiston to that list.
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Post by phoenix on Jun 13, 2011 15:10:14 GMT -5
According to the FAQ, Chaos Spawn aren't daemons... Also, it's funny that the Slaanesh special character also isn't, even though he appears through possession of whoever previously killed him.
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Post by droofus on Jun 13, 2011 15:27:11 GMT -5
I thought spawn was what someone becomes when their application for daemonhood is rejected. Good call on Lucius though. Possessing your enemies + eternal life certainly sounds like a daemon to me. khornedog: Regarding Oblits, if it's a daemonic computer virus that they are corrupted by, wouldn't they be daemons? Much like a daemon prince is a mortal shell inhabited by a daemon? |
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Post by doctorclockwork on Jun 13, 2011 15:36:22 GMT -5
I thought spawn was what someone becomes when their application for daemonhood is rejected. This is pretty much spot on. Also, I can't believe a Chaos player is complaining that one of his units might be considered a Daemon. Even without Preferred Enemy, if Grey Knights were to assault your oblits, they are going to die. |
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Post by khornedog on Jun 13, 2011 15:57:49 GMT -5
When do chaos players not complain?  Daemonhood is quite an honor... but I guess it depends on what legion you are talking to. WB's are all for it! Droofus, That does make sense. I had it in my head what a daemon is. I was thinking of it in a "pure" sense. Daemons in my mind are manifestations of warp energy directed by the chaos gods. Oblits carry a portion of that energy too so therefore would be considered daemonic. I'll admit it was a gut reation I think and I have no fluff to back me up. I mentioned in one of my posts Grey Knights just waste oblits in combat with our without PE. Mark already taught me that lesson. |
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Post by ross on Jun 13, 2011 20:18:42 GMT -5
but in the faq they say that the same powers can stack so hammerhand can be cast by several things in the unit for a massive str bonus
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Post by snickerdoodle on Jun 13, 2011 21:26:30 GMT -5
What is the bad news? The list I have been using only uses 6 henchmen squads. I would like to use 8 , no biggie. I thought it was interesting that DE units were on there as demonic.
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Post by droofus on Jun 13, 2011 22:10:38 GMT -5
but in the faq they say that the same powers can stack so hammerhand can be cast by several things in the unit for a massive str bonus Wow, you're right! The squad that Mark runs could go up to strength 8 (+2 from the libby with might of titan and hammerhand, +1 from draigo with hammerhand and +1 from the squad with hammerhand). Dreadnoughts beware! |
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Post by ross on Jun 13, 2011 22:26:43 GMT -5
lol who needs force weapons either
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Post by Sterling Archer on Jun 14, 2011 10:56:01 GMT -5
Hammerhand I'm pritty sure says in the powers rules that it doesn't stack.
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Daemonhood is quite an honor... but I guess it depends on what legion you are talking to. WB's are all for it!